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Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Anatomy of a Post-Grad Conversation

 Sure I've been out of school for awhile, but that doesn't mean I've stopped learning.  The interesting thing I've noticed is, in school you learn from lectures, notes, books, labs, tests, basically everything that makes you feel and think "eww. gross."  But after you graduate and you do that thing called post-grad life, you learn in a different way.  Things begin to repeat themselves and form patterns.  One of the patterns I've realized is something that happens in conversations.  Not conversations with daily friends, but maybe someone you see once every few weeks, or longer.  So what is that pattern?

The only things people really talk about are: Work, Relationships, and Hair.

WORK.  The first "So what's up?" usually refers to your job.  How's the daily grind going?  Do you like your job?  What's your boss like?  You have any hot co-workers?  Are you making more than I am?  But really, any hot co-workers?  All very pertinent questions that deserved to be answered.  Usually I tend to stay away from personal work talk because sadly it seems like a downer sometimes.  There's not a lot of people totally satisfied and happy with what they do.  Which is understandable.  At our age, everyone's figuring stuff out right?  But I can answer those questions to humor you.  For the most part, as unconventional as it is, I like my job.  My bosses are cool, Philip and Ted treat me well and so far I have not been sexually harrassed in any way.  I think.  I have two hot co-workers, who also happen to be my bosses.  Yea, that's right.  Am I making more than you are?  No.  Most certainly not.  Work talk is normal and expected in a conversation.  I mean, who wouldn't want to know what you're doing with your life.  What I'm jealous of is all the people that are still in school, or continuing school.  You tell people you're still studying to do this or that and it's automatically accepted.  No questions asked.  As if higher learning is...respectable or...something?  Who woulda thought?  Kidding.  I'd love to still be in school.

BOYS AND GIRLS.  "So what's new?"  Not to be confused with "So what's up?" which is clearly referring to work.  Sorry but no one cares what's new with your job.  Okay sometimes it's cool.  But people really want to know who you're checking out, who you're dating, all that juicy stuff I guess.  Work and relationships.  Seriously, that's what it comes down to.  Usually you cover the first as fast as you can to get to the latter.  Relationship talk can actually last the bulk of the conversation.  This is normal.  Depending on how in touch the friend(s) is, you'll have to fill them in with all the details.  There's a few directions this talk can go.  There's "I met someone new and we've just started talking, warm fuzzies!" or "I'm having problems with guy/girl and it's not looking good, what would you do?" or "I'm so emo because I haven't met anyone in like forever years and the most contact I've had with people is the 43 strangers I poked on facebook one hour ago"  You get the idea.  The dangerous part about the relationship portion of a conversation is that it can go both ways.  You may talk to someone extremely happy or someone unbearably sad.  But sharing is caring– so let it out.  As for me?  What's new?  I'll tell you when it happens.  Cheap, I know.  But I'm a listener first.  Other people always have more interesting things to say about their relationships anyway.  Oh what's that Wesley?  What happened to "sharing is caring?"  Well, what can I say, I'm a selfish bastard, mahaha.

HAIR.  I know it's ridiculous.  But hair talk is everywhere.  Once you get past work and relationship talk, you move on to personal, superficial things.  Oh and hair talk includes materialistic jabber like how the new iphone is such a ripoff but you still got one anyway...just cuz.  Or how that MTV pilates dvd you bought is working wonders on your thunder thighs.  (By the way, there's nothing wrong with thunder thighs, you really didn't need that dvd).  Okay, back to hair.  Hair talk usually follows the end of relationship talk.  Example:  "I dunno..I guess we'll just keep talking and figure out what happens.*Both parties sigh in agreement, followed by a brief silence*  "I need a haircut."  That's the catalyst.  Right there.  New hairstyles, hair coloring, old haircuts– there's so much you can talk about with hair.  And it makes sense if you think about it.  All that emotional energy spent talking about love is quickly balanced with super meaningless artificial appearance talk.  But hair talk is fun for that reason.  It's light, it's pointless.  You may think hair talk is restricted to girls.  But guys have hair talk too.  They talk about...muscles...and tattoos..and manly stuff like hunting wild boar..and they actually growl at each other instead of talking.  Trust me.  Because I'm a guy.  And I talk about those things all the time.  Yup.  Grrr.

RANDOMS.  Nearing the end of the conversation, you're left with some time to just..chill.  During this time, you might start playing one of those riddle games.  "If I'm a flashlight and Annie's a flashlight, are you a flashlight?"  That sorta stuff.  Or you might tell a lame joke not because it has a good punch line but because it's so lame, it's funny.  But among other things, one of my favorites is when one person is fiddling with their wallet and takes out there driver's license or ID and then that prompts everyone else to do the same.  "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" sorta deal.  ID sharing is a common gateway to another popular topic: old school memories.  And by old school I mean, your actual old school and oldschool, like the slang.  (I'm so hip with my lingo, I know).  Also during the "Randoms" part of a conversation, it's very possible to return to previous topics.  Example: "OMG I remember when you had short hair, it looked so fugly!"  (Not the best thing to say, but it's true...you fugly).  The random stuff you do at the end of a conversation is sometimes the most fun.  It's the stuff that reminds you why you're friends in the first place.  Because you can just sit and be stupid with each other.

Okay so not the most important piece of information I've learned after graduating.  But it's still something I've learned nonetheless.  It's a pattern that I've witnessed and experienced and thought would be fun to share.  Maybe it's just the conversations I've had, but pay attention to yours next time and see if what I've said holds true.  Now if you'll excuse me, I have to finish my poking session on facebook.  work.



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i've graduated for 3 years and i concur.
Posted 7/16/2008 3:45 AM by wutuwaitn4 Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - reply

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what's with you and poking on facebook? hahah
Posted 7/16/2008 5:05 AM by YOuR_IcKi3R - reply

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haha, definitely applicable.
Posted 7/16/2008 6:17 AM by faireh Xanga True Member - reply

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my eyes hurt from your font
but either way awesome entry
Posted 7/16/2008 6:59 AM by heshiyun - reply

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I haven't graduated high school yet and I don't want to graduate college any sooner.. if I could I would love to learn more (if money allows)
Posted 7/16/2008 7:44 AM by jessie623 Xanga True Member - reply

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i bet you could make a really nice short about this.
you are such a writer, wes (:
Posted 7/16/2008 8:19 AM by SmOOglez - reply

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lol yea.. i usually end up reminiscing with my friends... apparently its hard to let go of wat happened during the 4yrs of high school =P good memories
Posted 7/16/2008 9:27 AM by SvvtDimplez - reply

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muahah great entry wes
i'll see you at work today
GRR
Posted 7/16/2008 9:35 AM by SunShiineBaby - reply

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you've been writing. :) I can tell.

loves it!
Posted 7/16/2008 9:57 AM by autumndreams - reply

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So...

What's up?
What's new?
...and hey! I like your hair!
Posted 7/16/2008 10:04 AM by henrwhy Xanga True Member - reply

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Very nice post. It's pretty true. In the pre-grad stage, instead of work it's just school. Oh how long people can bitch about school. =) And then eventually, I guess family gets squeezed in there, esp. if you get kids and want to brag about them?

"Ahh, little Wesley Jr. here just earned his millionth dollar, so he can pay his own way to Berkeley. I'm so proud."
Posted 7/16/2008 10:34 AM by bittersweetromantic - reply

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Work and relationships, then hair. Is that because once you know those things, you know everything? Does that mean work, relationship, and "hair" is all there is to know? I mean, I'm trying to think of other stuff that constitutes us, as people. But once you have your career/future, your love/friendships, and your "hair"/appearance, plus a dash of randomness, that's basically... it. Right?
Posted 7/16/2008 4:46 PM by PurpleliciousStar - reply

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very funny.
Posted 7/16/2008 5:15 PM by elelkewljay Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - reply

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wow... very interesting insight on what conversations go around and are like. I've never really thought about it but it's true, there's always something going on about work/school and relationships. And man, wesley, you are amazing writer. This blog was soo interesting to read and well, being a listener is a good thing ;]
Posted 7/16/2008 6:22 PM by fantasy_spirit - reply

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So true. And now that I have things like an IRA and health insurance I get really excited about that. "And my co-pay..get this...only $10!! I should get cavities more often!"

Also...I have the coolest ID to show people. It's me (of course) with Toadstool and it's an official Nintendo Mariokart license. Beat that. :D
Posted 7/16/2008 8:07 PM by deviousdaisy - reply

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haha i love that.
Posted 7/16/2008 10:12 PM by xSoMaganda - reply

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yeah your bosses are pretty hot actually. xD  glad you like your job because people like wong fu!  Poking is becoming a hassle.  I used to have seven pokers who would poke on a daily basis.  Now I have two.  about that flashlight game...where I come from (uhhh not too far from LA), we call that the "rose" game.  no flashlight; it's rose.  it has a better ring to it, i think.  Either way, the game's annoying.

I think you're pretty much summing up the need to talk to someone, whether it's going to end up being an awkward conversation or not.  I know where you're getting at because those talks happen to me a lot.  The average post high school grad questions that keep re-appering in my life..."What college are you going to?" (holy crap, the same one that Wesley Chan went to!) "What are you majoring in?" "What are you doing this summer?" "Are you planning to get a summer job?"  When that hair catalyst you referred to comes up, I know it's becoming/already has become an awkward conversation.

Posted 7/17/2008 12:37 AM by liTtOxaZnxaNgELx - reply

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let's compare and contrast once i get out of school.
--- when you're a dear grandpa (: haha.

i am kidding. (:
Posted 7/17/2008 12:43 AM by lxvelife - reply

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Hmm... I don't think I ever ask "What's new?" It's usually "What's up?" And by that I mean "in your life in general," which usually leads to all sorts of things. Then again, I'm still in school (2 more quarters to go!).

As for the hair thing, I think it is a natural progression to go from relationships to hair. I guess this can apply to anyone really, but there are girls out there who chop off their hair when they want a change in their lives. It's definitely something less permanent than a tattoo, and when it's nice, it's rather refreshing to have a new look. Kind of a physical change to represent that inner change you want for yourself.
Posted 7/17/2008 12:57 AM by synchr0nicity - reply

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hahaha this is a great post
Posted 7/17/2008 4:30 AM by aznchcknrice - reply

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my eyes... =_=
3rd year in college and i don't want to graduate next year. O_o
Posted 7/17/2008 10:47 AM by FiFiGirl - reply

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haha i like this entry.
i recently graduated from college so a huge postgrad topic is what are your postgrad plans and what old hs friends are doing, etc. with closer friends, we talk about more random things since we are already updated with each others lives. we share interesting articles, video clips, music, etc., recommend books, gossip, and reminisce about old times =)
Posted 7/17/2008 12:06 PM by lil_joycie - reply

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lol that was very interesting and entertaining for me to read at 7:50 am at work...i got here almost an hour ago and haven't done anything productive yet. but you know, i've noticed those too. conversations seem almost insignificant in some way, but those patterns exist! anyway...hope you guys are doing well! just wanted to say hi. =)

Posted 7/18/2008 5:49 AM by Stardust86 - reply

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hmm... so true... now i'm going to be self-conscious about what i say... i think i'll be random right off the hop. "You so fugly!"
Posted 7/18/2008 9:13 AM by jiggajayd - reply

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I either check my xanga too often.
Or time is playing tricks on me.

I swore this entry was sitting in my subscription pile for over a week. I wasn't planning on reading it. Sorry but too many words intimidate me.

But I did. And I enjoy your writing. I find it riveting how your writing is consistent to the way that you talk in real life. Or at least how you seem to speak in real life. ie. your vblogs etc etc. This is supposed to be a compliment.
Posted 7/18/2008 8:48 PM by smayi - reply

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